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  RCGF 50cc-B
 
Later tonight i'll update the test result... but one thing for sure i'm surprise with the result! seriously... anyway just for opening, i attached this photo...

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Ini lagi best.
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Gasser mmg best bro....skali main dah kureng nak pandang nitro nie...yea la nitro mahal. Petrol skali main baru baper sen aje....hehehehehe. Isi 2 liter...guna sampai sebulan....heheheheheGrin
 
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Gasser mmg best bro....skali main dah kureng nak pandang nitro nie...yea la nitro mahal. Petrol skali main baru baper sen aje....hehehehehe. Isi 2 liter...guna sampai sebulan....heheheheheGrin


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Yaaa betuuullll...!!!GrinGrin
 
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RE: RCGF 50cc-B
 
Eragon wrote:
Keza wrote:
Gasser mmg best bro....skali main dah kureng nak pandang nitro nie...yea la nitro mahal. Petrol skali main baru baper sen aje....hehehehehe. Isi 2 liter...guna sampai sebulan....heheheheheGrin


Kalau kat site minyak habih, sedut jo minyak kreto


ialah...kereta kekawan banyak...sedut je...yang mana satu suka...
jangan tersalah sedut minyak lori sudah...
tak hidup engine...

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Okay kita sambung sikit... Engine ini lebih kurang sama je berat dia dengan DL50cc. Perbezaan ketara diantara dua engin ini adalah crankcase dia. Kalau DL50 jenis forging/cast crankcase, RCGF pula adalah CNC machined daripada billet aluminum.

Daripada segi rupa dia, off course cantik lagi RCGF ni... berpinau mata kalau tengok lama2... hehehehehe.... tapi rupa sahaja tak guna kalau tak perform... so kita pun hook-up kat bench.

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Mounting template dia sebiji macam DA/DL 50cc, yakni 80mm across, dan 67mm vertical. mounting screw dan standoff yng disediakan tu cukup memadai untuk rear carb clearance daripada firewall.

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Muffler dia di polished dengan cantik. Mounting muffler ada disediakan gasket untuk mencegah kebocoran exhaust gas. Untuk bench test ini selalunya saya ketatkan sahaja screw muffler tu, tetapi kalau sudah dipasangkan pada kapal, ada baiknya diletakkan "thread lock" pada muffler screw serta mounting screw yang lain-lain.

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Cylinder head dia jika diperhatikan betul2 macam DA/DL 50cc, cuma apa yang saya nampak castingnya lebih kemas daripada DL. Okay mari kita study lak spec dia ni..

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Type : 2 cycle piston valve type gasoline engine for airplane
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kita boleh bercerita sikit pasal autochoke system yang terdapat pada carburetor walbro yang dipasangkan pada engine ini..

throttle lever ada interaction dengan choke lever, kita boleh tutup choke manually selepas itu secara automatic choke akan terbuka apabila throttle di tambah nilainya.

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Selepas semuanya diperiksa kali kedua, saya cuba untuk menghidupkan engine. seperti biasa tutup choke, flip dalam 7-8 kali sambil memerhatikan fuel flowing thru fuel tube. Apabila fuel mula memasuki carburetor saya hidupkan ignition.

Flip dalam 5 kali, engine poping... saya tolak throttle push rod sikit, choke valve released dan terus terbuka sepenuhnya... cukup convenient!

Flip dalam 3-4 kali, engine batuk-batuk sikit tapi tak mahu hidup. Saya screw in idle stop screw sikit (ini menambahkan idle setting) flip sekali sahaja lepas tu engine terus hidup.

Saya biarkan dia idle selama 5 minit.
 
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11-04-2009 01:43 AM | Edited by umran 11-04-2009 01:48 AM
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Saya perhatikan juga vibration level engine ini semasa idle, nampaknya tidaklah begitu bergegar.

Saya tambahkan throttle secara perlahan-lahan, nampak engine accelerate dengan smooth nya..

Tetapi apabila throttle at max open, frekuensi bunyi yang dikeluarkan engine ini cukup tinggi sekali, mmm... ini membayangkan kelajuan pusingan yang tinggi ni... By the way saya gunakan prop 22 x 8 untuk testing.

Selepas itu saya terus ambil tacho meter, saya ambil bacaan semasa max... 7300+ rpm! Terus terang saya katakan saya amat terkejut dengan angka ini.

Apa dah rosak ke tacho meter saya ni? Saya terus masuk store hidupkan lampu kalimantang, dan hala tacho meter pada lampu, bacaannya 3000rpm, mmm... lampu tu cycled at 50hz ( typical AC current frequency kat rumah) maksudnya 1 cycle = 1/50 saat, => 50 cycle selama 1 saat, 60 saat = 50 x 60 = 3000! so tacho meter tu betul...

Saya ambil lagi bacaan, betul 7270rpm dan ada kalanya mencecah 7300rpm.

Ini sudah terlalu baik untuk engine 50cc! DL50cc saya dahulu, first tank dia max rpm cuma 6800 sahaja dengan mengunakan prop size yang sama yakni 22 x8. Hanya selepas tangki yang ketiga dan sedikit tuning saya memperolehi 7000rpm.

Tanpa sebarang adjustment dan nisbah minyak adalah 1:30, engine ini sudah menunjukkan potensi yang cukup besar, bayangkan selepas 1 - 2 gallon fuel serta some tweaking on the needle vlvs, saya percaya ianya boleh pergi dengan lebih jauh lagi...

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maaf le video tak berapa cun, angin terlalu kuat org rumah kita tak boleh nak pegang h/set tu dengan baik...
 
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cun2...ni yg x sabar nk main 50cc ni..Grin
 
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pergh bertuah kite ade kedai bang umran. GrinGrin
 
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bill wrote:
pergh bertuah kite ade kedai bang umran. GrinGrin


bill,
bertuah pasal apa ye? Mungkin kerana info yang saya sediakan kot... anyway saya hanya sampaikan apa yang saya tahu dan khabarkan apa yang berlaku...
 
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umran wrote:
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bill,
bertuah pasal apa ye? Mungkin kerana info yang saya sediakan kot... anyway saya hanya sampaikan apa yang saya tahu dan khabarkan apa yang berlaku...


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4throttle wrote:
umran wrote:
bill wrote:
pergh bertuah kite ade kedai bang umran. GrinGrin


bill,
bertuah pasal apa ye? Mungkin kerana info yang saya sediakan kot... anyway saya hanya sampaikan apa yang saya tahu dan khabarkan apa yang berlaku...


Bertuah sbb apa yang bro umran jual/niagakan adalah brg mampu milik...info 1 faktor penting jugak...klu info saja...barang x mampu milik...sama juga xde erti bagi kami yang poket ala2 kadar ni...so,dengan adanya bro umran...at least bolehla kami buat perkiraan belanja tuk sebuah airplane...pun begitu...udahla barangnya mampu milik...kualiti pun bagus...jadi klu pada sayalah...sesuai benarlah klu "www.mae.my"..mengetengahkan slogan..."NOW EVERYBODY CAN FLY"...CoolCool


betul kate henri tu. mcm bole bace je minda aku ni hehehe GrinGrin
 
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Sini da baru betul..hahah..aku antara pemilik enjin nih..sangat2 berpuas hati..senang betul nak idup..

power semua secukup rasa..

eh apa beza antara A dgn B version?
 
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slumberjer wrote:
Sini da baru betul..hahah..aku antara pemilik enjin nih..sangat2 berpuas hati..senang betul nak idup..

power semua secukup rasa..

eh apa beza antara A dgn B version?


ada beza sikit... A version the cylinder is more like 3W engine, while B version is more like DA engine. Power wise, B version is slightly better.
 
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